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Xeng Suey · Nov 07, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46

What concerns GvG, i cant and i dont want to mention the importance of this skill update.

In other hand, what concerns HA, I just wanna apretiate the nerf on Blood skills. HA was getting anoying whith so many like suckers on it. Anayway, good update on it. Nice nerf on the ranger elite Expert's dextery aswell (ufortunatly, no nerfs done towards the whole Ranger Spike build

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Its a pitty Essence of celerity been nerfed in PvE. I think this will put people apart from farming ectos on the way its been done for some months till now. However, there are some professions and skills that are not being much used, nowadays, in pve. Being so, if people stop QQing for a bit because Celerity has been nerfed (and, btw, notice a advantage of it: no more money spent in consumes. Is´t it wonderfull? well it fits to mee, cause i dont have much money

) they could realise that it can be possible to farm, whith new tactics and skills/builds, those big high-end pve areas. Just, lets think from our selfs, pls

Koning · Nov 07, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Let's hope for a change in SF next week.

NoXiFy · Nov 07, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

Wow you people bitch so much, this update was awesome! B-spike was the most retarded build in HA and GvG because it rolled through high-ranked balanced teams. Having a prot and an infuse was terrible cause prot can only heal with divine favor -_-. Also, rangerspike was the second most retarded build although I think the real problem is Glass Arrows, ED is a start. Scamming option is pretty damn stupid imo cause people are retarded. If someone trades you 10 ecto for 500g by accident, is that scamming? Or is that them being retarded.

Rocky Raccoon · Nov 07, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Lindsey was right, this was a monster update. Totally on par with the sorrow's furnace update I'm sure, if not bigger.

I totally forgive the delays to this and the next update, especially in view of the raw size of the update. Careful skill balancing is an art, I can only imagine the hardships Lindsey's gone through for this one. GG! Really.

I'm so happy I delayed my nap-time by a few hours, this update was well worth a little wait. Can't wait to test out all the changes tomorrow, my mind is already toying with all sorts of ideas for new builds. Once again, awesome!

That update is next week.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 07, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by fenix

Anyone wanna save me reading 5 pages and summarise why scrubs are whining THIS time?

The big one is that Essence of Celerity duration reduced to 20% from 25%.
This means that UWSC ARE REEUINED! ARGHH! ILL ENVER PALY GW AGAIN! GGANET!

Because as we all know bringing bringing Glyph of Swiftness AND Deadly Paradox is just impossible and completely ruins the build and run and leads to the downfall of life and civilization as we know it.

Wild Rituals · Nov 07, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

I belive For once im gonig to have to agree with Noxify
As for consumables If u cant Pve without them Your Doing something wrong

imnotyourmother · Nov 07, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

I am complaining about the nurf. Geesh. I never got to use that skill before the nerf. I never used any of these except to gaze upon someone. I like that one lengthened. Go Necro nancy

Chucky333 · Nov 07, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

This update is good.
Wtf is wrong with you people bitching and QQing?
After seeing what's ANet's "rebalancing" and "buffing unused skills" updates cause in pvp i don't have a remote clue why any of you still want them to do it.
I'd rather see more of these purely killing OP shit updates.
ED and B-spike were broken and now they're gone, i'm interested in seeing what are all the bspike guilds gonna try to run to stay on the top 100.
About essences.. well i just dont believe this. its just funny how there's always PvE'rs to cry about ANet not allowing them to get everything in PvE done by rolling your head on the keyboard mindlessly.
GG Anet, problems are not solved yet but these was the most urgent stuff needed to be killed in GvG (and if you read the notes youll see that this update was GvG focused).

hallomik · Nov 07, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Scamming option is pretty damn stupid imo cause people are retarded. If someone trades you 10 ecto for 500g by accident, is that scamming? Or is that them being retarded.

If you agreed to by 50k and put up 500g hoping the other person isn't paying attention, then yeah it is scamming. If you don't think most people would catch this lame effort and (now easily) make a report, then good luck trying try to rip someone off.

As for the supposed abuse, any time a report is made, someone from anet reviews the chat logs between the players before issuing the ban. False reports can result in a ban against the person making the report. "Oh noes, Abuse" is basically a non-issue.

The primary benefit is that a whole lot of would-be scammers will think twice now about potentially losing their accounts over some platinum - improving the game for all.

upier · Nov 07, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by hallomik

The primary benefit is that a whole lot of would-be scammers will think twice now about potentially losing their accounts over some platinum - improving the game for all.

You mean the same way that the AFK-bastards now think twice about leeching at Aspy because of the superb report system?

FoxBat · Nov 07, 2008, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by upier

You mean the same way that the AFK-bastards now think twice about leeching at Aspy because of the superb report system?

Do you remember how bad it was? There is a ton less of them than there used to be. I haven't seen more than 1 in a game even.

hallomik · Nov 07, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by upier

You mean the same way that the AFK-bastards now think twice about leeching at Aspy because of the superb report system?

Dishonor points <> Account Ban.

If confirmed scamming, like leeching, resulted in the application if dishonor points, then you would have a point.

Arkantos · Nov 07, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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The primary benefit is that a whole lot of would-be scammers will think twice now about potentially losing their accounts over some platinum - improving the game for all.

The main flaw with the scamming report function (and the report system in general) is that if the person you are reporting leaves the district before you get the chance to report them, you can't.

So really, as long as you cannot report someone that isn't in the district, this is quite useless. Any scammer who knows how the report system works (which is most likely a lot) is going to leave the district after scamming.

Dronte · Nov 07, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Four skill nerfs, 3 for the same teambuild. GG, thats for 1 month.

super strokey · Nov 07, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38

I thought this was supposed to be a huge update as the last months update was tiny?

super strokey · Nov 07, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

That update is next week.

I see, but i wouldnt hold my breath on that

keli · Nov 07, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Dronte

Four skill nerfs, 3 for the same teambuild. GG, thats for 1 month.

its just enough for this month why would we need more? (not sarcasm..)

upier · Nov 07, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Do you remember how bad it was? There is a ton less of them than there used to be. I haven't seen more than 1 in a game even.

Yeah, now people play and you WISH they'd leech instead ...

I ran into a FoW+chaos gloves-wearing God Walking that leeched Aspy yesterday.
If a person that invested so much time into a character isn't afraid to leech ... then I don't see the thing working. (Ohh and he was one of the 3 people that leeched from the start with one additional guy leaving after seeing that. Fun match ...)

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Originally Posted by hallomik

Dishonor points <> Account Ban.

If confirmed scamming, like leeching, resulted in the application if dishonor points, then you would have a point.

You mean that people who are constantly reported for leeching aren't in danger of being banned?
Wait, why the hell do I even bother with that crap then!
Dish is crap - I want those RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOers banned - at least if I report them multiple times per day on multiple days. And multiple months.

Seriously - it's really just Dish? No ban-threat?

The Meth · Nov 07, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Molock

The update was good, ED and bloodspike were hit. "After seeing [ED bars] in action for a while, we believe we may need to do further fine-tuning." is a good sign to me, it means they reduced it effectiveness now (which was very much needed) and will perhaps try and find a way to better balance it. They also avoided pointless skill changes like the change to [Meteor] from last month.

There wasn't anything wrong with the [Meteor] change. Izzy can add small buffs to 100 underpowered skills for all it really matters and it doesn't make an update bad. What makes an update bad is not nerfing obviously overpowered or ridiculously stupid/simple crap.

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

The big one is that Essence of Celerity duration reduced to 20% from 25%.
This means that UWSC ARE REEUINED! ARGHH! ILL ENVER PALY GW AGAIN! GGANET!
Because as we all know bringing bringing Glyph of Swiftness AND Deadly Paradox is just impossible and completely ruins the build and run and leads to the downfall of life and civilization as we know it.

No it doesn't lead to the end of civilization, it leads to communism taking over the world. Read the EoC thread where I proved the logical inevitability of this plzkthx.

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

The main flaw with the scamming report function (and the report system in general) is that if the person you are reporting leaves the district before you get the chance to report them, you can't.

So really, as long as you cannot report someone that isn't in the district, this is quite useless. Any scammer who knows how the report system works (which is most likely a lot) is going to leave the district after scamming.

Yeah, but at most each scammer is only going to be able to jump to another district once or twice, then they are out of districts to hit. Unless they get really lucky and find someone dumb enough to trade ectos for 100 gold each in their first 3 tries they got nothing, and they are risking a particularly dedicated player who might switch districts to try and find them. I don't know how often the scammers find someone who gets tricked, but I would hope most players don't fall for it and the only way they get money is the 1 in 100 person who doesn't check.

On the other hand, I feel anyone dumb enough to be scammed deserved it, so the idea of reporting people for scamming when you were the player who clicked accept is /fail as far as i'm concerned.

fowlero · Nov 07, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Lol and this is just the warmup whine for this month.

Next week could be epic.

On topic though didnt i've never played against the blood build but it was plain retarded and nice to see it didn't take tooooo long (relatively speaking) for them to dispose of its effectiveness somewhat.